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Sales and Marketing Unite! Really.

  
  
  

We're pleased to have a new guest blogger with this post. Ginger Conlon is editorial director of 1to1 Media. She blogs at Think Customer.

Ginger ConlonAccording to The Bloom Group, only 19 percent of sales and marketing executives describe their teams as “totally in sync.”

That’s unfortunate, because, ultimately, sales and marketing have the same goal: sell more stuff. Sure, they approach it differently. But when they work in tandem, magic happens.

That’s why I think sales and marketing should unite—one department with one leader. Perhaps that person has the title vice president of sales and marketing or vice president of business development or even chief customer officer. The goal is to have the people responsible for attracting prospects and engaging customers and the people responsible for converting that interest to sales working completely in sync. In most cases that takes more than interdepartmental collaboration.

The biggest challenge sales and marketing face today in terms of collaboration is alignment. (Dan McDade recently discussed this issue in his post, “Sales & Marketing Still Not Aligned? Who Owns the Fix?”) It’s easier to align one team than disparate teams. Consider how differently marketers would look at lead generation if their variable compensation hinged at least in part on sales results. Lead quality would certainly improve. Imagine how much more likely salespeople would be to use collateral if they’ve had a voice in crafting it.

Sure, this can happen if sales and marketing work independent of each other; it does in many companies today. I’m saying that it would work better if the two teams were joined. Think of all the sales and marketing professionals you know who incessantly complain about their marketing or sales counterparts: “They don’t understand what we need from them to succeed.”

Another challenge is communication. One, united team can more easily hold an ongoing conversation about, say, what constitutes an “A” lead (as this will evolve over time) or how many leads are actually workable or how best to nurture those leads over time than two disparate teams that communicate only when absolutely necessary.

What’s more, a cohesive team can better partner on the most essential part of the sales process: the ongoing customer relationship. You know, the one that leads to upselling, cross-selling, increases in wallet share.

Shared success metrics, common goals, ongoing communication, and real teamwork create a powerful bond that helps reach those goals. So, sales and marketing: Unite.

Tell us what you think!

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Ginger, I totally agree with your sentiments!! Curious ... Do you know any companies who are actually doing this? What a facscinating case study!
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:28 AM by Elizabeth Fairleigh
Elizabeth, 
 
Since most companies are still operating with sales and marketing as separate teams, I'll point to Tektronix as an example of a company that's successfully creating close collaboration between their sales and marketing organizations by linking compensation and encouraging communication. You can read about it in "Relationships at the End of Their Rope" at http://bit.ly/bK0AOB
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:40 PM by Ginger Conlon
Interesting -- Accountability and agreeing on what defines a quality lead are both critial. I think being compensated for performance is foreign to most Marketers, but with smart processes and automation tools in place it is getting easier to identify what works and what doesn't.
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:57 PM by Elizabeth Fairleigh
I totally agree with Ginger and hope this helps to close the gap.
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:26 PM by mimi
I have to agree also. Marketing goans and incentives are usually misaligned from sales and vice versa. If goals were aligned properly along with the proper incentives, behaviors among sales and marketing professionals would change thus forcing collaboration and partnership. I realize this is easier said than done but the silos and the "in-fightings" or "outfightings" that exist between these two groups need to cease for the sake of the greater good - organizaing marketing and sales around the customer.
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:11 PM by Art Hall
I agree with the points made abaove on having complimentary bonus plans and definitions of leads. However, typically the bigger problems is that sales work on shorter time frames than marketing. This can be thought of as quota vs. brand, opportunities vs. initiatives or many other contradictions. These must be understood before significant progress can be made.
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:33 PM by Bruce Kopkin
Art, 
 
Yes! "Organizing marketing and sales around the customer," is ideal--because, ultimately, customers are what keeps us in business. 
 
 
 
Bruce, 
 
Great point. And to add to the challenge, those time frames are changing as the buying cycle evolves due to the vast information online.  
 
Some timelines will never match (branding is ongoing and quotes have a distinct time frame), but others have the potential to mesh (e.g., lead generation, nuture, and follow up). I think that close collaboration, especially where those time lines intersect, is one place to start.
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:53 PM by Ginger Conlon
Marketing and sales departments seldom unite except under the leadership of a senior VP. Aside from running the Sales Lead Management Association I take assignments as an interim (3-6 month assignments) Sales and Marketing Manager. I started this several years ago because I had limited success as an interim sales manager unless I also had influence over marketing. It has worked every time. It takes enlightened managers to pull it off if the two departments only report to the company president. A story: I was VP of Sales at Stac, Inc., and John Bromhead was the VP of Marketing. We met weekly at lunch and talked about the issues. Finally when I had a new sales manager, I assigned his office over on the marketing side. I told him it was the only office open. John also assigned one of his product managers over next to me. Amazing what it did for the two departments.
Posted @ Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:07 PM by James Obermayer
James and Ginger - look for a blog in the near future that summarizes a LinkedIn discussion on this subject. I wish we could all just get along, but a friend of mine has a great expression: No one ever built a statue to a committee... Sometimes someone has to be boss and there has to be clear accountability. Great thoughts! Thanks!
Posted @ Monday, September 13, 2010 8:31 AM by Dan McDade
James, Great story. 1to1 has written about several companies taking a similar approach, IHG being one of them (http://bit.ly/bltuqV) when it reorganized its various marketing teams to work holistically.
Posted @ Monday, September 13, 2010 8:52 AM by Ginger Conlon
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