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Who is teaching the CMO how to sell?

  
  
  

Debbie Qaqish is Principal Partner and Chief Revenue Marketing Officer for demand generation agency, The Pedowitz Group. A nationally recognized thought leader and innovator in revenue generation, Qaqish has over 30 years of experience helping organizations connect marketing to revenue. She is a pioneer in marketing automation—first as a beneficiary of the technology and now as an advocate and expert. Her first book, "The Rise of the Revenue Marketer®," will be published in 2012.

Debbie QaqishWho is teaching the CMO how to sell? If you’re in sales, you might think this is an odd question or you might have a stronger, more visceral reaction to the question—“Marketing doesn’t sell, we do!”

However, if you’re leading a marketing organization in a B2B company, this question is directly tied to marketing’s new revenue imperative and it can be a very scary question. The line between sales and marketing is becoming more blurred every day. What was once the bastion of sales—the sales funnel from top to bottom—is now shared with marketing. How the B2B organization “sells” is being re-written as we speak and the newest key player in this scenario is marketing. DemandGen Report recently called this “a shared revenue funnel” and in a recent Revenue Marketer Radio interview, Yvonne Anderson at NCM called it “the revenue team.”

Further, in companies in which marketing fully participates in the revenue cycle we see improved closed rates, lower cost of sale, and improved revenue results versus the competition. Who doesn’t want this?

Let’s see what is causing this role re-alignment and how the CMO is learning these new skills, specifically sales.

The drivers for a shared revenue funnel and the revenue team comprised of both sales and marketing are:

  • Buyer behavior has changed. Buyers can now glean a majority of information on potential solutions from the web or through social media. This disintermediation with sales has effectively given control of the sales cycle to the buyer.
  • But all is not lost. While the buyer is now going online and choosing not to speak to sales early in the buy cycle, tools like marketing automation allow marketers to see this online behavior and respond to it so that marketing can now create an intimate, digital relationship with the buyer. Marketing now owns the top of the traditional sales funnel.
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  • Finally, the past few years have been tough on many industries and when revenue slows down, it is typical for companies to explore new and better ways to drive revenue. Between new technologies, new buyer behavior and an open mind for new ways to drive revenue, the role of marketing in revenue production and the resulting required “sales knowledge” for the CMO has lead us to this question—“Who is teaching the CMO how to sell, or who is teaching the CMO their new role in helping to drive revenue?”

The short answer is they seem to be learning this “on-the-job” and this can be quite a challenge especially in the enterprise organization. The typical CMO in a larger enterprise has been in marketing most, if not all, of their professional career. They cut their teeth on product-price-placement-promotion—the 4 Ps of marketing. To all of a sudden be responsible for “sales” or “driving revenue” in a direct contribution model can be daunting. So let’s look at where the CMO might learn these new skills.

Academia: If you look at undergraduate and graduate programs in marketing across the US, you’ll see an obsessive focus on B2C marketing as if this new way of marketing for the B2B organization doesn’t even exist. Even when they try to address B2B and the tools and processes required, it’s a 30-minute lecture or 2 paragraphs in a text book (which I recently saw and they had most of it wrong).

Industry: The vendors in the marketing automation space provide training and education, but it is very focused on how to use the systems they sell. This education centers around tactics such as is lead scoring, creating email campaigns, building landing pages and tracking new metrics. They are assuming that the CMO is already on board and knows how to lead a revenue marketing team.

Corporate: When is the last time you saw marketing, especially the head of marketing, participate in sales training? We are beginning to see more and more of this, but it is the exception, not the rule.

Professional: Groups such as AMA, MarketingProfs, MarketingSherpa, OMS and others began with a tactical focus and are just now offering broader topics for the executive. I recently did a webinar for AMA called The Rise of the Revenue Marketer which begins to address the role of the marketing executive in revenue. However, this is still short of really providing the training and education required to ready the marketing executive for this new role.

The role of marketing in driving revenue is here and it is not going away. New buyer behavior, new ways to digitally interact and a keen quest for revenue ensure this role stays in place and may even expand. We call this role Revenue Marketing and advocate for this becoming a distinct role in the marketing world—just like product marketing or marcom.

So how can today’s CMO gain these new skills? Here are 3 ways to get started:

  1. Fully understand how your organization sells. Go on sales calls, listen in on sales calls, attend all sales meetings, get a copy of the documented sales process. Invest time and energy in understanding how the sales teams close business. Do not hand this off to one of your direct reports—do it yourself.
  2. Investigate the role marketing plays in driving revenue using marketing automation technology—this is THE game changer. For CMOs not looking at how to leverage this kind of technology in a B2B environment, you probably will not be keeping your job for long.
  3. Map out the Life of a Lead process from cold lead to close. With marketing automation, you will be able to succinctly define your role in helping to drive revenue. You’ll want to do this process WITH sales. This map becomes the foundation for building effective revenue marketing programs.

In addition to these three options, I believe we’ll begin seeing more executive level training and education to fully prepare the marketing executive for their revenue responsibility.

Tell us what you think!

Comments

Hi, Debbie... 
I don't agree that buyers have been given control of the process. Haven't they always had control and now the Web simply enhances that control? And marketing has always owned the top of the sales funnel in my eyes. 
 
Your 3 steps to getting going are solid... and I think what you're getting at is an obsession on "brand advertising" (versus the more controllable, predictable science of direct response) in B2B. To the extent that we don't teach "marketing science" or "revenue marketing" or whatever we call it, academically. Hence, many CMOs don't value it in practice and need crash courses (not the most comfortable) in it... in order to evolve.
Posted @ Monday, October 10, 2011 9:31 AM by Jeff Molander
Jeff, 
 
Thanks for the comments! Control of the buying process is more firmly in the hands of the buyer. Here is what I mean. In the days before the internet (DBI), when a prospect wanted to find out about a solution, they had to CALL the solution provider and begin an engagement. While they are in control of this process, by bringing in a vendor EARLY in the process, the vendor could try to establish more control. Now, when a co thinks about looking at a new solution, they go online the the vendor has no idea this co is even looking. The vendor has NO control at all. 
 
Now marketing can own the top of the funnel in a more concrete way by actually being able to demonstrate how a lead moves through the top of the funnel, becomes an MQL and then further tracking that MQL to close. 
 
Finally, yes, CMO's need a crash course - BTW, I'm actually developing one!
Posted @ Monday, October 10, 2011 11:19 AM by Debbie Qaqish
Good advice Debbie: when I was in an F500 company and took over a major marketing role I took every sales training class they offered including one on sales management. I then enrolled my marketing staff. The best ideas for lead generation and branding emerge when marketing goes on sales calls. 15 years ago I asked a BMA group how many marketers in the audience knew the quotas the salespeople carried in their organization. Out of 200 people (Marriott in San Jose area) 2 raided their hands. When I ask that question today about 35% raise their hands; still not enough. The marketer’s role is to increase the wealth of the company. Those that understand the sales process get it, those that don’t change jobs.
Posted @ Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:56 AM by James Obermayer
Great ideas Debbie but how many marketers will really invest in walking a mile in the shoes of their sales teams? That would be an interesting poll especially if we could also ask if they did it once (as an event) as opposed to doing it on a regular basis (as a process). 
 
We highly recommend to our clients that everyone in the marketing organization spend 4 hours a month following up on the leads they generate. Going on a sales call is one thing but actually having to try to reach a prospect and get them to engage is a real eye opener. It is an investment that pays off in spades! 
 
Looking to hearing more from you on the role of the revenue marketer!
Posted @ Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:05 AM by trish bertuzzi
Hi there,  
 
It amazing that professionals still preach that sales is not an instrinic component of a comprehenive marketing strategy. It surprises me that people think that marketers don't understand that salespeople are brand embassadors and everything they do impacts on brand image/value/loyalty ETC. Those who think that a true professional marketer needs to be trained as to what sales are all about, think aghain or find another marketer, they sell everyday using every media available!
Posted @ Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM by Ron 'Doc' Halliday
I'm living through this exact change in marketing My career began in the DBI when marketing management and sales marketing were practically unrelated and generally operated in conflict with each other. I totally agree that if today's marketing manager working almost anywhere, marketing just about anything doesn't take an interest in understanding everything about the activities of the sales marketing division of their business --- yep, they're going to be out of a job in no time.
Posted @ Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:15 PM by Michele Anderson
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